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posted by: irishred (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (12:48 pm) I have no doubt that you will come to the appropriate conclusion...there isn't anything I can say right now that will sound good or comforting. Just know I am here. posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (1:49 pm) The "R" word doesn't fit? Sorry, I am livid too. People like this are not nice. The do things like he did to you, and they beat on women too. In my opinion, the best way to make this guy understand what he does is to send him to prison and let him become the bitch of some very large black man named Bubba. (I am not trying to be racist, but when I think of the scariest human being I know, he is a very large black man called Bubba, and I wouldn't want to be his bitch). Seriously, though, make sure you talk to a counselor about this, regardless of whether or not you send this piece of shit to jail where he belongs. posted by: LarryConley (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (2:59 pm) Diva, That.. was rape.. no if's ands or buts. I think that you are willing to date at all after that shows just how strong you are. I would strongly reccomend speaking to a councilor about the matter and strongly consider going to the police.. Not so much for yourself if you look at it that way.. but for the next poor girl he makes friends with. I realize you don't have a lot of good experience with the medical community.. but it generally is the sort of thing you need to talk to SOMEONE (aside from us strange online folk :) about. Me.. I'd send the jerk a jelly jar full of gasoline and put a label 'Rush' on it.... Mebby he'll sniff enough of it. (Just be sure to remove fingerprints)... I don't know what is availible in your state.. but there ought to be some place you can call anonymously and ask for more information about finding someone to talk to that is right for your situation. posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (3:05 pm) I can't believe that guy!! Stay strong... posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (3:30 pm) Reply to: newbie Pursuing things thru a criminal process would be a waste of time. Even if I had gone to the police immediately afterwards. It was his word against mine. He could say that I wanted to try the "rush", etc. Sure, I have a lot of marks and bruises, etc but who's to say it wasn't just rough sex? I believe in karma. I have faith that he'll get what's coming to him. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (3:33 pm) Reply to: LarryConley Thank you for the feedback Larry. I have already spoken to the crisis center and have leaned on some friends. That part of it is something I can deal with. It's trusting again - doubting my own gut instincts - that's where my turmoil is. posted by: NurseNancy (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (3:47 pm) what he did was illegal. You should call the police. Period. I don't know what the laws are like in your state, but up here soemthing like that wouldn't go over too well with the cops. posted by: JT (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (4:02 pm) SD, I know you don't want sorries but I'm still sorry. NOBODY fucking deserves that. And yes, it was rape. I know why you don't want to go to the police -- I've been there -- but I wish you would, anyway. When I was raped, I wouldn't report it. And I found out months later that the same asshole who hurt me trapped another girl in a bathroom very soon after he attacked me. I hope this fuckhead never touches another woman for the rest of his life. And I hope you have reason to regain your trust in the people who deserve it. Best of luck to you on your recovery from this -- give yourself time to heal, and do recognize the trauma of it. You're a strong, strong person and I know you're going to be okay. Love you, girl. posted by: kurtmaddox (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (5:38 pm) Why is everyone so full of shit in this world? You would be the last person I would expect to think what you are indicating in this post. At some level, I hope this is a hoax post of something. What the f*&K!!!!!! This guy who you are talking about like he stole money out of your purse or something is a sexual predator, a criminal, and probably more f-ed up than anyone cares to guess. what the hell do you mean that you hesitate to use the "R" word. You were RAPED -- plain and simple. He is a criminal -- plain and simple. Society should be protected from him -- plain and simple. Ge-mon-knee Christmas!!!!! I really just don't know what to say here because I'm so perplexed and disturbed by this post. Whether you want to go through pain of prosecuting this sick bastard is entirely up to you and I understand why you would be hesitant to so in the circumstances you describe -- mostly because of how any defense attorney is going to use your own understandable dishonesty about it against you along with every other defense trick in the book. i am so sorry you were violated in this way -- so sorry that i'm moved to a great deal of emotion about it. but, my god, how can this be discussed like he simply stood you up on date or did some really weird thing with his toes or something???? do you think some guy who could pull this crap so quickly and aggressively with you hasn't done this before to other women/girls???? i'm just going to move on now that i've said what i had to say. if i could do anything to help, i'd do it in a heartbeat. posted by: Producerboy (unlogged in) (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (7:17 pm) SD: I agree with the hard-liner's here, even if I know that it would be difficult to pursue, legally speaking. Just be clear on this point: you deserve WAY FUCKING BETTER THAN THAT PIECE OF SHIT. Instead of developing/nursing resentments against THAT FUCK, I would take a look at what got you in his house, and on his bed in the first place, AND NEVER MAKE THOSE DECISIONS EVER FUCKING AGAIN...... I'M PISSED, but my protective instincts for my dear friend (you) are TOTALLY FUCKING WORTHLESS, unless you read the road for yourself a bit better in the future. I know I might get a LOT OF SHIT for saying this from well-meaning friends here who might interpret my comments to mean that you somehow put yourself in harms' way. Not my point at all. I guess that I'm really saying is you are there, I'm here, and I care for your ass a whole lot. I can only be here to help mop up afterward, but GODDAMN IT<>>>> I WANT YOU TO STICK YOUR FEELERS OUT FURTHER AND BE FUCKING CAREFUL!!!!!!! Love, ~Producerboy posted by: SweetDiva (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (8:47 pm) OMG! Diva.....((hugs)) Are YOU ok? stupid question...I know. Honey....nothing I can say will make it any different ... just pray on it. You still have to deal with this within...you still have to except this for what it was. Don't make excuses for his ass. Right now...you are still in shock. Once you come out of it...you will realize that it was "R" and nothing less. I went through something like this last year with one of my ex's. It was an attempted rape plain an simple, I wouldn't give in....he finally gave up at trying to get my pants all the way off, did what he had to do to get off. And left....I had all the evidence that could of convicted him...the sperm, the brusies... but ....... well I know if my dad ever found out he would KILL that bitch. "Friend" was ready to fly down and kill his ass. But all in all....it took me months to get over it. I mean...here I am saving myself for "the man of my dreams" and this bitch tried to strip that all from me.... Sorry...didn't mean to go into all that, if you need to talk....tmail me. I can give you a way to get intouch with me other wise if you need. Take care of yourself. PRAY....God bless you. posted by: SweetDiva (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (8:49 pm) "I believe in karma. I have faith that he'll get what's coming to him. " That right there and the his word against mine is exactly why I didn't go to the police too. I know he'll get his. God don't like ugly! posted by: almsthvn (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (9:23 pm) Please reconsider filing a report against him. It could be that he has a history of abuse. I never filed against the man that raped me - it was 20 years ago and the support wasn't there then that is here today. I always wondered if he went on to abuse someone else, and that I could've taken action to prevent it. ... or maybe the girl he was with prior to me could've prevented him from abusing me... I'm betting that if he could drug you, he could easily be drugging others, and he needs to be stopped. Take care of yourself, dear. You're special. posted by: goins007 (reply) post date: 05.16.05 (10:32 pm) You should file a report. Even if it did come down to your word against his, it's pretty much one of those theres where your guilty untill proven innocent. And if he thinks he can get away with this with out even having a report filed whats to stop him from doing it to some other woman down the line? He got away with it once with out anything happening, why not one more time? Doing nothing is the worst thing you can do. posted by: LarryConley (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (3:01 am) ""It's trusting again - doubting my own gut instincts - that's where my turmoil is."" Hmmmmmmm Well I'm REALLY not an expert on getting over things since my last relationship went pretty badly.. but I can think of two things... a) the double date get/make/steal/borrow etc someone you DO trust and go out as a pair of couples.. slime usually doesn't like witnesess they curl up and die in the light. b) be VERY(or at least fairly) up front with any dates..and warn them that you've had troubles in the past and the next fellow who gives you trouble is gonna end up downtown in a powered wheelchair begging for change... C) (and very extreme so I think this could be bad too) find an alpha male type you consider .. trustable.. explain EVERYTHING to them.. and see what they do posted by: chicalookate (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (3:59 am) It is sad that in these sort of situations the victim almost always wonders what they could have done differently, but I doubt that people like T ever wonder the same. I am glad to hear that you are getting help and are being honest with your friends. Sending lots of hugs your way. And some rather mean ones to T. And you know the tblog gang could help you out if needed. posted by: deviant1 (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (4:48 am) You were raped. He deserves to be gutted. Its pretty simple. The most disturbing part of all of this is your statement: "HAD he come forward afterwards and apologized and said that he really fucked up - I think it would have helped a lot." Think about that. That disturbs me. Where is your anger? I am sorry that I am not closer, or I'd send that motherfucker to the hospital for a good long stay. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (5:53 am) Reply to: deviant1 Thanks Jay. I know that your words are meant to be supportive. But it's not about the sex for me at all. I've been angry but I'm beyond that now. Someone acknowledging that they did wrong - for me - helps. We are all different and although you may not understand my perspective, I know how my mind works and what I need to move on. posted by: visitor (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (6:45 am) i know how people find it easy to say "report it. period." and i know that it's not as easy as people think it is. about 3 years ago, a friend almost raped me. now this guy is someone i trust. we knew each other ever since we were little kids... he was a cousin of my childhood bestfriend... and our parents kinda know each other. anyway, after what happened (or rather what didn't happen), i struggled to understand it. and i couldn't. i went through the same emotions and thoughts you did. it took me 5 months to tell one person about it... and 2 years to tell more people. when people ask me why i wouldn't tell my parents about it, i would tell them i can't hurt them with the knowledge of what happened. especially since nothing happened. if they ask me why i didn't take him to court, i answered that it was a waste of time, that it would be his word against mine, and that it was stupidity and lack of better judgement on my part. and when peole ask me now what i think of the person... i said the same thing you said... just leave everything to karma... that he's gonna get what he deserves. be strong... it will be better. posted by: gambit3131 (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (10:45 am) I really do not know what to say. The first thing that comes to mind is how sick the world is. It seems like every woman I know has been raped. Am I one of the few that thinks that is wrong? Second, you were raped. To you, I understand it is not about the sex. But the man assaulted you, at least report him for that. You've had something taken against your will. I realize my words are coming from someone who does not know what the process is. But people like him are betting that women won't report it. Like I said, at least report the assault. I don't know. I am far from the person to be giving advice on a situation like this. Yes, the trust was lost with this guy. But you shouldn't let that keep you from trusting others. Just be more gaurded. I am sure you have thought through all these. I really think that if you could get everyone from tBlog together at this guys house, he would soon regret what he did. Ok, I'll quit mumbling now... posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:05 pm) Reply to: gambit3131 Gamby, I appreciate your comments and your concern. We each handle/see things from a different perspective based on our own lives. I see things differently - and for me, this is what's right. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:07 pm) Reply to: visitor Thanks for sharing your story. Unfortunately, even if I felt it was a rape immediately after it happened, I still wouldn't report it. We can thanks the media's handling of any woman that reports a sexual assault. She's made into a victim or a vixen. It sucks but that's the way it is nowadays. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:11 pm) Reply to: chicalookate Thank you for the hugs. I'm not a 'victim' and actually, I'm not second-guessing anything I did. There was utterly nothing I would have done differently. Nonetheless, Tbloggers are great to come out for support and I'm appreciative of every one of them. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:17 pm) Reply to: LarryConley Larry, There are several "Alpha Males" in my life and yes, I've had to gently remind them to calm down. It's sweet to know they want to protect me. I would NEVER tell men that I date what happened. I know that sort of stuff freaks some guys out. And as I've said now about a hundred times, the sex is not the issue with me - at all. This situation would not have been averted had I double-dated - I'm not going to double-date a guy for 8 months. My dating career is quite extensive and I've been able to handle myself quite well. In my book, this was not a guy I was dating - we were 'friends'. The entire point of what has upset me is that I did trust him. It's not like he's someone I just met. Had I had any inkling, I wouldn't have been over at his house. I understand you mean to offer helpful advice, but it doesn't really fit for me. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:20 pm) Reply to: Godsmack April, your actions about the vibrator deserved my reaction - I wasn't being 'grumpy'. I will handle things in my own way. The police would laugh this situation off even if I went directly from his house. You're going to have to trust my 'level-headed' self on this one. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:21 pm) Reply to: rosietulips Thanks. posted by: baileydog (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:21 pm) I think you left out the part where you called the police and had him arrested. As a member of the law enforcement community, do it!!!!!! He'll just do to someone else that he did to you. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:23 pm) Reply to: NurseNancy Our county CEO was accused by an 18yr old girl that she was boozed up, raped and held hostage in a hotel room. She was ripped to shreds. What was a 50yr old man doing giving alcohol to an 18yr old in the first place? Our county isn't exactly very friendly towards those sort of accusations. Women are villified. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:24 pm) Reply to: JT Thanks JT. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:28 pm) Reply to: kurtmaddox Thanks for ranting (I mean that in a positive way). I see things differently and you'll just have to respect it. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:32 pm) Reply to: Producerboy Thanks hon. My 'feelers' are fairly astute and there was nothing that gave me a red flag about things. You *know* I've put myself in some rather precarious positions in the past and came out completely unscathed. In contrast, looking back, there was nothing I would have done differently. Thank you for the concern, the emails, and the laughs. I'm glad you're part of my inner-circle. I value your friendship, support and insight tremendously. sending you the love back at ya. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:37 pm) Reply to: SweetDiva Thanks. I'm glad you've been able to move on as well. I guess that I'm incredibly resillient. Despite what you and the majority of people say, I still don't and won't use the "r" word because it's a non-issue for me. Whether there was sex or not, it wouldn't make a bit of difference - it's the fact that he drugged me. However, thank you for sharing your story and your support. I'm lucky to have a number of folks that are keeping an eye on me. I don't think I could deal with much more support. (he he) Shespecies hasn't read this yet - she knows about some of it - and I haven't bothered to get into it with her because she's swamped with stuff. The poop is going to hit the fan and I expect another phone call shortly thereafter. (hehe) I'm ok. Really. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:39 pm) Reply to: almsthvn Thanks Alms. Everyone's special. Some people are special assholes, but everyone's special - hehe. I understand that in an ideal world, that I could file charges and he'd be stopped, but it's not going to happen. I'm taking some further steps - I'll blog about it after the fact. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:41 pm) Reply to: goins007 Goins, I respect your perspective but it's easy to say that when you aren't involved. This is a personal choice. And I'm not saying he is going to get away with it. There are other ways to handle things. (And that doesn't mean I'm going to castrate him) posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:43 pm) Reply to: baileydog No, I didn't leave that part out. posted by: LarryConley (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (12:58 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva ""This situation would not have been averted had I double-dated - I'm not going to double-date a guy for 8 months. My dating career is quite extensive and I've been able to handle myself quite well. In my book, this was not a guy I was dating - we were 'friends'. The entire point of what has upset me is that I did trust him. It's not like he's someone I just met. Had I had any inkling, I wouldn't have been over at his house. I understand you mean to offer helpful advice, but it doesn't really fit for me."" Scuba.. hmmm I'll send you a PM.. posted by: goins007 (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (1:28 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva Well to each their own, but as a 3rd party it's easier for me to be objective about this. You have 2 choices, either involve the law, or seek some sort of vengence for what happend. I hope you make the right choice. posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (1:43 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva You know, about going to the authorities. It may truly be your word against his, but by creating a record about what happened could come into play in the future. Suppose he does this to someone else. Maybe he goes farther and hurts someone really bad. Maybe worse things happen. Then the authorities will be looking for people who can help them to prove what kind of person he is by the history he created. You never know. As far as Karma goes...I totally believe in the same thing. If you ever need anyone to be the "comes around" part of "what goes around, comes around", you just say the word. I have a sister living down there. Maybe I could go visit some of her loser ex-dates while I am at it. I really hate that this had to happen to you. My sister has the same kind of trust issues (it seems). She has resigned herself to live by herself. She likes her dog much better than any man. Sucks because it doesn't have to be that way. posted by: NurseNancy (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (2:00 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva well, I'm sorry that there are still places in the country that are so backwards. Reading all the comments I feel a great groundswell of support towards you reporting him, so that he does not do this to another woman. posted by: kurtmaddox (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (2:25 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva Well, I can *accept* "it" and respect YOU :-) posted by: SweetDiva (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (4:40 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva I'm fine now, it took me some time to deal....I went through the blaming myself etc..... I know you'll be ok....Diva's have to be strong. ((hugs)) Nothing but prayers and blessings wished upon you. God bless posted by: JT (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (5:05 pm) Reply to: ScubaDiva I got yer back, Diva. posted by: visitor (reply) post date: 05.17.05 (6:37 pm) reply to scubadiva i know what you mean about how the media portrays women in that situation. one of my main concerns is that the situation would be reversed. if i had taken him to court, i know lawyers would try and rip me apart. they're gonna portray me as a slut... someone who got what she deserves. someone who's asking for it. i know i'm not that kind of person (i'm a virgin), but i cannot risk them ruining my psyche especially in a fragile time like that. other than that, i don't want people to treat me any differently. i don't want them to feel uncomfy about interacting with me. i hate to be pitied at. anyway, i was thinking that maybe he used chloroform on you? just guessing. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.18.05 (4:21 am) Reply to: visitor Nope - he was sniffing the same stuff himself - which if it was something like chloroform, would render him out cold. I wasn't out cold - just really out of it, dizzy, and totally lost track of time. From how I felt, how long it lasted, etc - it fits the bill of butyl nitrate - aka "rush". I certainly don't feel that I'm in a fragile state but I do know that guys that hear a woman has been violated sexually - often it freaks them out - they want to handle a girl with kid gloves OR they don't want to handle them at all. (And there are exceptions to the rule) But, everyone STILL keeps focusing on the sex - which for me - isn't the issue. At all. Thanks for your comments and I hope you feel you made the best decision for YOURSELF - just like I do. posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.19.05 (3:58 am) Reply to: XAirborneRTO Sorry Bryon, but no it 'ain't' going to happen. This is MY decision and YOU are going to HAVE to deal with it. I appreciate your concern and that you feel that male-macho need to protect me, but it will not help me move forward. Be my friend - you don't have to agree with my choice, but I'm asking you to respect it. posted by: KeysTreasures (reply) post date: 05.19.05 (1:15 pm) There is no reason for you to trust right now. Don't worry about that. Worry about yourself and anyone else that "T" might do this to in the future. Not to mention whoever he has done this to in the past. YOU MUST REPORT IT!!! Your story may be an important piece of the puzzle the authorities need. Stand up and Yell I'M MAD AS HELL AND WILL NOT TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!! posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.19.05 (1:41 pm) Reply to: KeysTreasures Thank you for your comments and concern but I've made the decision that is best for me. posted by: AmyHCAlum (reply) post date: 05.20.05 (12:02 pm) Just checked out your blog for the 1st time (I see your name on the tblurt lots & one other comments on blogs) & was saddened & angered by what happened to you. The guy is a jerk. You do what you must, I just hope you do eventually deal w/ it & get past it. You obviously have friends who care about you a great deal. That said, I know people who "know people"...we could "take care of him" *smirk* posted by: ScubaDiva (reply) post date: 05.20.05 (1:52 pm) Reply to: AmyHCAlum Thanks for the feedback and for reading my blog. I'm doing just fine. One more thing I need to do and I'm putting it all behind me. |
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